Anthony Doerr


After reading the story The Shell Collector when it came out in 2002 I xeroxed it and gave it out to everyone I knew. It’s just one of those stories that is so good you want to share it. I find this to be true of everything I’ve read of Anthony Doerr’s. In general his stories tend to run long, almost verging on novella length. I think that’s part of what I love about them- substantial enough to really get into the characters, the scene and the story- with settings that take place all over the globe, allowing the reader a detailed trip through Africa, Lithuania, Germany, China, Idaho, Kansas or Rome. Another thing I love about Doerr’s writing: it’s filled with science. See, this is funny because I don’t really like science and I definitely don’t know anything about science, but if you sneak it into some well written fiction, apparently I’m all over it. The Shell Collector reminds me of a marine biology class from many years ago, but marine biology class was never this good. Doerr’s latest book, Memory Wall is a collection of six stories that examine the role of memory in our life. The characters range from old women at the end of their lives to a couple trying to create life. In the final story, “Afterworld” an elderly woman has seizures that rocket her back to her childhood in an orphanage in Nazi Germany, allowing her to skate through the past and present fluidly. “The River Nemunas” is about a little girl searching for memories of her late immigrant mother through learning how to fish with an old woman. And “Procreate, Generate” is a somewhat simple story of a couple in Idaho trying to get pregnant that has a raw, sincere quality to it. All of the stories deal with our perception of memory and how strongly our present identity is linked to the past. Doerr has an innate ability to write about the sticky, uncomfortability of life in such a beautiful way that a story about an old woman with Alzheimer’s is not merely sad but intriguing and charming.

When we first started Dossier, I had a wish list of writers that I wanted to be involved in the magazine, and contacted Doerr asking him if he wanted to be involved. He mentioned he was looking to be sent to the space station so he could write a piece about it. Well, we couldn’t do that but we’re pleased to tell you that he just contributed an essay on portraiture for our next issue, with images shot by Jessica-Craig Martin. And if there are any other editors out there- he is still looking to go to space. I hope he gets there because I would love to read that essay with all its science bits. Here, Doerr was kind enough to talk a little bit with us about memories, Idaho and the best part of summer.

Katherine Krause: How did you start writing?

Anthony Doerr: I was hammering out stories about my Playmobil pirate ship on my mother’s typewriter when I was nine. I always felt amazed that the books on my shelves were written by human beings, not Gods, that anyone with enough determination and patience and guts could write one. I still feel amazed at that.

Katherine: When you were younger, was there anything else you wanted to be? From your stories it is obvious you have a comprehensive view of science, particularly biology- where does that come from? You write a column on science books for the Boston Globe, would you ever write a book on science yourself?

Anthony: An architect. And a malacologist (someone who studies mollusks). The love for science comes mostly from my mother, who has been a science teacher all her life. And it comes from being outside–I was outside all the time as a kid, climbing trees, fishing, rock climbing, capturing snails in Florida. I’m still outside as much as my life will allow me to be.

Katherine: You write both fiction and non-fiction- is there one that you prefer?

Anthony: I prefer fiction. But sometimes an essay is just waiting there, some spark of an idea for me to fumble after on the page. Often essays come from more practical urges (i.e., a magazine will pay me to write one), but fiction is my truest love, mostly because I find it so challenging and absorbing. Ultimately I just like mucking about with language and feel intensely grateful that I’ve been able to do so in my life.

Katherine: Do you have a specific writing process or ritual? How often and for how long do you write a day?

Anthony: Yep, I rent an office away from my house. I show up in the morning, strap on chainsaw-operator’s earmuffs, turn over a big old-fashioned hourglass, and try to write for two whole turns of the hourglass. Then I let myself take a break to, say, check email and answer interview questions. On good days I can do a lot more than two hours, and on bad days I don’t quite make it through two turns of the hourglass. Those days I’m usually cranky.

Katherine: You’ve said that you end up writing stories that are too long to be short stories or too short to be novels. Is this on purpose or by accident?

Anthony: I think it’s mostly by accident. Stories form slowly on the page for me, in a slow accretion of days, and mostly in one’s subconscious. One can’t always control how large their structures will be. For me, right now, they keep ending up around 50 or 60 or 70 pages.

Katherine: Do you think the novella will a renaissance?

Anthony: That sure would be nice! One likes to think that with iPad and Kindles and such, more and more readers will be willing to take on a nice juicy novella.

Katherine: Why did you choose the theme of memory for your collection of short stories? Did you purposely write these stories to be part of a bigger collection relating to memory or were you just in the memory zone? It seems like a lot of the characters in Memory Wall are isolated or abandoned and their memories are there to comfort them, but you suggest that the memories will also abandon them. What made you start thinking about that? Did someone in your family have Alzheimer’s or Dementia?

Anthony: When I was in high school, my grandmother began to act in confusing ways, and even endanger herself, so Mom and Dad brought her from Toledo to Cleveland to live with us. She quickly deteriorated; she couldn’t remember my parents’ names; she always worried about where her purse was. In the evenings she’d sit at the kitchen table and ask, over and over, to be taken home. And at night she’d stand in the hall and call names and addresses into the dark. I remember that my mom had to bathe her–my mother, bathing her mother. And yet, most days, Grandma could still crush me at gin-rummy! When the burden got to be too much for my folks, and they started looking for homes for Grandma, was the first time I’d heard of Alzheimer’s. What a strange and terrible disease. Then, though I was too young to appreciate what my parents (especially my mother) were going through, I did learn in some fundamental way that our identities are absolutely and irrevocably tied up in memory. Lose your memories, lose yourself. This new book is in many ways an attempt to being to understand my parents’ pain, and to investigate the role memory plays in the lives of all of us as we grow up, age, and cope with grief.

Katherine: The title story has a science fiction slant- is that a genre you are attracted to or would write more of?

Anthony: Mainly I’m interested in things I think are fascinating. Like parachutes and people who eat songbirds and pretty little snails that can poison big, strong adult humans and kill them. That particular story came out of an assignment from McSweeney’s to write a story set in the near-future. The conceit of the memory cartridges–that someday doctors might record our memories–is actually something neuroscientists are beginning to work on. Is is science fiction? Ultimately, I don’t mind either way–that’s for a critic to decide.

Katherine: There is one story in Memory Wall set in Idaho, but the rest take place all over the world- did you have a connection to each of these places? Lithuania, South Africa, Germany, Ohio, Kansas, China…

Anthony: Yes. Travel fuels my work and I keep a journal everywhere I go. I find I can write better, see more clearly, and think more largely when I get out of my habits and put myself in unfamiliar situations. I was in Germany on book tour, Lithuania working with teachers, Kansas to give a reading, etc… I don’t always know that I’m going to set a story somewhere until long after I’ve returned, but for me a chief pleasure of reading and writing is feeling transported–is taking a reader to another place, and showing it to her in all its beauty and weather and heartache. So traveling and reading and writing are all very similar endeavors for me, all ways to try to live a meaningful life.

Katherine: How did you end up in Idaho?

Anthony: I fell in love with a woman who grew up in Boise.

Katherine: What are you working on next?

Anthony: A novel about the power and magic of radio, set during World War II, when radio was both helping drive the German expansion and–eventually–bringing it down.

Katherine: As far as being a writer, did you ever have an “I made it” moment and if so, what was it? (For example a friend said his was when he heard his song turned into musak in an elevator.)

Anthony: Well, I don’t really feel like I’ve “made it,” mostly because writing remains so damn hard for me, but twice I’ve seen strangers holding my book on airplanes. That’s sort of staggering to me. And not so long ago I took my kids to a swimming pool and there was a woman there reading one of my books in a chaise lounge. We swam for an hour or so and she read that whole time and then we left and she was still reading. That felt pretty great.

Katherine: What are you reading right now? What are you reading next?

Anthony: I’m reading a manuscript of Edith Pearlman’s Binocular Vision: New & Selected Stories, which will be published next year. And after that I’m going to read David Mitchell’s new novel. (The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet.)

Katherine: If you had to pick five books for a desert island, what would they be? What’s the one book that gives you the most inspiration?

Anthony: Moby Dick, by Melville. Suttree, by Cormac McCarthy. The Autobiography of Red, by Anne Carson. Dubliners, by Joyce. And for my fifth and last book, I’d cheat and bring one of those massively thick anthologies of short stories, The Story and Its Writer by Anne Charters. Sixteen hundred onionskin pages, one hundred and fifteen short stories, three pounds. The stories in that particular book are arranged alphabetically by their writers: Chinua Achebe to Richard Wright, and reading it I learned so much about how flexible stories can be, how so many different minds from so many different times and cultures have used to it stretch the form. That particular anthology is, bar none, the most inspiring book on my shelves.

Katherine: What’s the last good exhibit you saw?

Anthony: I was at MOMA a few weeks ago and found myself mesmerized by Kara Walker’s gigantic installation of paper cutouts in the atrium. It’s called: Gone: An Historical Romance of A Civil War as It Occured b’tween the Dusky Thighs of One Young Negress and Her Heart. I don’t even know all that much about Gone with the Wind and yet still Walker’s huge mural held my attention for a long time: the comic grotesquerie of it, the questions about race that it asks, and the technical skill!

Katherine: Tell us something you love about Boise, Idaho.

Anthony: I love to float the Boise River right through the center of town in a big inflatable raft with my six-year-old twin sons. We eat sunflower seeds and I listen to them tell me what they see.

Katherine: What’s your favorite thing about summer?

Anthony: Finding myself in lots of good situations to look at the stars.

Writers’ Houses

The ever lovely M + E who design pretty things for people like the Magnetic Fields, Passion Pit and Phoenix have made four two-color posters for the launch of the new website Writers’ Houses: Where Stories Live. The website is a guide to writers’ homes all over the world, for both historical and inspirational reasons. The first series of prints includes Flannery O’Connor’s Andalusia, Emily Dickinson’s Homestead, Edward Gorey’s house, and Edgar Allan Poe’s cottage. M + E have plans to do writers houses all over America and then branch out into the world. Personally, I would like to see Salinger’s house. Or Joan Didion and John Dunne’s house in Malibu or Brautigan’s house in Bolinas. Get cracking, guys.

Jennifer Egan

Jennifer Egan’s latest book, A Visit From the Goon Squad is a collection of short stories told in many different voices that come together to look at a group of people and the passage of time. Each story could easily stand alone, as did “A to B,” which was published in Dossier and “Safari,” which was published in The New Yorker. As Egan’s fans know, her style varies from book to book and this collection is a testament to her wide-ranging mastery of voice and tone. She takes on the voices of so many different characters in this book- thirteen to be exact- that range from little girls to old men. The title comes from one of the characters, Bosco: “Time is a goon,” and Egan shows us how people grow-up, fall in love, find success, become obsolete, stage comebacks, get old and die all in the course of one life. This is not the first book to employ this tactic of the collective narrator, but I think it is done in such an organic way where you really feel something pulling you towards these characters and start thinking about how lives are lived in groups. Egan was kind enough to answer a few of our questions about writing such a multi-layered book and what she is reading now.

Katherine Krause: How did you start writing A Visit From the Goon Squad?
Jennifer Egan: A Visit From the Goon Squad began as so many projects do: as a way of avoiding something else. I was having trouble approaching a novel I’d been researching for quite a while, and I was looking for an entertaining distraction. Around this time, I found myself washing my hands in a hotel bathroom on the Upper East Side. When I looked down, I noticed a wallet resting in a bag in plain view right below the sink I was using. Its owner seemed to be in the toilet stall. Having been pickpocketed and otherwise robbed somewhere around fifteen times in my life, I felt immediate anxiety about the vulnerability of that wallet. Then I thought: but there’s no one in the bathroom except me. Which led to the fantasy of taking the wallet…or rather, a projection into the mind of a woman who might do such a thing. I found it exhilarating to imagine myself on the other side of the robbery equation. I decided to begin working on a story the next morning, beginning at the moment that a woman takes a wallet from a bathroom. Three years later, I finished Goon Squad.

Katherine: It only took three years to write Goon Squad?
Jennifer: Well, about three years, but four of the chapters in it I’d written and published some years ago as stand-alone stories. They were in a kind of limbo in my mind; I wanted to revisit them, but wasn’t sure how to. Then, to my surprise and excitement, I found the new material sending out tentacles and attaching to that earlier stuff. Characters from those older stories began to reappear at earlier and later moments of their lives. So if you include the time I spent writing that older material, it ends up having been a longer process. But difficult to measure.

Katherine: So, the stories didn’t start out being connected to each other?
Jennifer: Each one would make me curious about a peripheral character, and then I’d begin a piece about that person. For example, in the first chapter, “Found Objects,” the wallet thief mentions in passing her former boss, a record producer who sprays pesticide in his armpits and sprinkles gold flakes in his coffee. When I wrote that, I meant it as a laugh line–a thumbnail sketch of a decadent music industry type. But after finishing that chapter, I found myself curious about the music producer and why he has those odd habits. So I began a story about Bennie Salazar, who turned out to be one of the main characters, and I began with no more information than the fact that he did those odd things. The chapter was an exploration of why he did them. And in the course of writing that chapter, several other peripheral characters caught my eye…and so on.

Katherine: Do you have a favorite character in Goon Squad?
Jennifer: It would probably be Bennie Salazer, whom I mentioned above. I loved him for his wild, neurotic eccentricities. He’s also plagued by shame memories, which is something that was happening to me at about the time I began his chapter. So we have that in common.

Katherine: Who was the first character you wrote about?
Jennifer: First Sasha, then Bennie. Then Bennie’s former wife, Stephanie, whose older brother turned out to be someone from one of the earlier stories. That one took the form of a celebrity profile, told from the point of view of a troubled, exhausted, harassed and ultimately violent man who attacks the starlet he’s interviewing. When I wrote about Stephanie, that character, Jules Jones, reappeared after his jail sentence.

Katherine: Which was the last story?
Jennifer: The last one was the second-to-last chapter, which is written in PowerPoint. I wrote that under a lot of pressure last summer, after I’d already sold the book. I was absolutely consumed by a desire to write fiction successfully in PowerPoint. But let me tell you, it’s not easy.

Katherine: Was that the hardest to write?
Jennifer: The PowerPoint chapter was the hardest technically. Second hardest would be “Out of Body,” which is written in second person. Also very hard to pull off.

Katherine: Was it difficult to switch back and forth between so many voices?
Jennifer: I found it refreshing to move from one to the next, in much the same way that I like to completely change the ground rules from one book to another. But it was extremely hard to find a unique voice, and world, and mood, for each chapter. It was hard to start fresh thirteen times and still have them all add up to one big story. Read More »

John Waters Role Models

John Waters’ new book, Role Models is a collection of intimate profiles of some of his favorite people. With Waters, you obviously expect the chosen role models to be colorful and he doesn’t disappoint. Among some of the characters are Tennessee Williams, the singer Johhny Mathis, a gay reality-porn auteur, a lesbian stripper called Lady Zorro, Miss Esther- the owner of the scariest bar in Baltimore, atheist leader Madalyn Murray O’Hair and the martyr Saint Catherine of Sien. Waters also discusses his much publicized friendship with Leslie VanHouten, who is in jail for killing Sharon Tate in the Manson murders. Taking a peek inside Water’s brain is to go to a place where the odd and the bizarre are the normal and the real role models are those who aren’t afraid to be themselves. Excerpt here.

Shirley Jackson


I must have been nine the first time I read Shirley Jackson’s short story, “The Lottery.” I remember thinking deliciously that there was no happy ending, no remorse, and no moral to the story. Of course, that’s not exactly true but the chilling look that she gives to the human condition and in other stories, the supernatural realm are beautifully written and wholly realistic, in addition to the fact that they scare the shit out of you. Dying at age 48, in just two decades Jackson would write some of the best suspense writing that would go on to influence such greats as Stephen King and Peter Straub. The Library of America just released an anthology of her works, edited by Joyce Carol Oates. Her biggest novels, We Have Always Lived in the Castle and The Haunting of Hill House are in the volume in addition to 21 short stories and some of her sketches. Famous for refusing interviews and giving slight biographical info, also included in this compilation is an essay, “Biography of a Story” about the reaction to “The Lottery” when published in the New Yorker in 1948- to this day, no other story has provoked such an uproar and cause so much hate mail. Perfect reading for those long, quiet summer nights.

Sloane Crosley

Sloane Crosley is a super-hero of sorts; book publicist by day and best-selling author by night. For her day job, Sloane works at Vintage Books as the publicist for big dogs like Joan Didion, Toni Morrison, Jay McInerney, and Dave Eggers. In her free time, she wrote her own book I Was Told There’d Be Cake, the best-selling collection of essays that HBO bought the rights to and is currently being turned into a pilot. Her much anticipated second book How Did You Get This Number? comes out this week. Although some of these essays take place as far away as Alaska and Portugal, they are all very rooted in that wonderful melancholy New York humor she’s become famous for. Highlights include an essay that reads like an ode to smelly taxis and how difficult finding a decent apartment in New York is, weighing the pros and cons of a kleptomaniac roommate. Also, whenever you can quote “I believe you are in league with the butcher,” you win my vote.

Katherine Krause: How many hours a day do you write?
Sloane Crosley: Depends. Sometimes five. Sometimes none. Though I don’t think you can write well after three hours. Or at least I can’t. I hit hour four and it’s like I write one sentence, get exhausted, and need a cookie.

Katherine: Do you have any rituals for writing?
Sloane: I need a full glass of water and a clean apartment. And I usually start sitting on the floor.

Katherine: Do you try to write humor or does it just come out that way?
Sloane: Mostly it comes out that way. That said, I have a general sense of when it needs to either be drawn upon or cut back.

Katherine: Do you read a lot of humor writing?
Sloane: Actually no. I appreciate it. I love David Rakoff and Nora Ephron and humor novelists like Sam Lipstye. But I don’t seek it out. It’s how I feel about potato chips. I’ll eat them if they’re there and I’ll like them but I’ve never pulled off the road for them.

Katherine: You’ve said you are a short story fanatic- what are some of your favorites?
Sloane: Oh my God. Well, okay. Collections are too many so I’ll go with individual short stories:
People Like That Are The Only People Here
by Lorrie Moore
In The Gloaming
by Alice Elliott Dark
Pie Dance
by Molly Giles
Things You Should Know
by A.M. Holmes
Christmas Is A Sad Season For The Poor
by John Cheever
White Angel
by Michael Cunningham
The Dead
by James Joyce
Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been?
by Joyce Carol Oates
How To Give The Wrong Impression
by Katherine Heiny
A City of Churches by Donald Barthelme
Love and Hydrogen
by Jim Shepard
Mortals
by Tobais Wolff
Send Me To The Electric Chair
by Clyde Edgarton
Sarah Cole: A Type of Love Story
by Russell Banks
Down Through the Valley
by Wells Tower
and maybe Girl by Jamaica Kincaid. I think of the last line of that story all the time.

Katherine: Do you write fiction or poetry?
Sloane: Fiction. My poetry sucks. I know because I’ve never really tried. I think you have to have a special calling to write good poetry.

Katherine: Did you always want to be a writer?
Sloane: Yes. Mixed with other things like archeology and art but pretty much, yes.

Katherine: Did you always want to be a publicist?
Sloane: Fuck no. I had no idea what a publicist was growing up. But it turns out to be a pretty excellent job when you believe in what you’re promoting.

Katherine: What is one book or story you always try to push on people?
Sloane: When people come into my office and just say they need something to read I’ll give them Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro or anything by Lorrie Moore or Dave Eggers. Also The Curious Incident of The Dog in the Nighttime by Mark Haddon is a crowd pleaser. If I could push any book on anyone? Maybe The Moon and Sixpence.

Katherine: Is there one book you re-read again and again?
Sloane: Dubliners by James Joyce.

Katherine: What’s your opinion on the iPad and digital technology in the publishing industry?
Sloane: Call me when it makes waffles. No, really: I think we’re so simultaneously scandalized and fascinated by it but generally I think the iPad is great. Though the glare in the sunlight sucks if you intend on taking it to the beach. But it’s not blanketly bad for books. But it’s hard for me to have a definitive opinion on e-readers yet. I think both their advantages and damages have yet to be realized.

Katherine: How many actual books do you think you own?
Sloane: 600? 1,000? I can’t do math so good. It’s why I work in publishing.

Katherine: Who are some of your favorite artists? Photography, painting, mixed-media, etc…
Sloane: Gregory Crewdson, Tracy Emin, Amy Cutler, Tokihiro Sato, Sally Mann. I like Robert Montgomery. In general I end up liking one piece by an artist, which doesn’t bode well for art collecting.

Katherine: What’s your best NYC survival skill?
Sloane: Ignoring my instinct to turn when called. That and walking over sidewalk grates in heels without really having to see when one is coming up.

Katherine: When people come from out of town to visit you- where do you take them?
Sloane: The Russian Samovar, Raoul’s, Death & Co., Egg, Frankie’s, Barney Greengrass or Russ & Daughters. I like Omen too. I like to ply people with food and drink, clearly.

Katherine: What is a book or a piece of art that sums up NYC to you?
Sloane: The giant Chagalls in Lincoln Center. I remember standing beneath them with my grandmother when I was about 4 and her explaining what everything in them meant. It’s one of my earliest memories of the city.

Katherine: Any plans to leave NYC or are you here for good?
Sloane: I would leave if I had a good reason or a strong desire. Put it this way: if I felt I absolutely couldn’t live anywhere else, I’d force myself pack my bags tomorrow. I’m here by choice.

Fill in the blanks:

If I could follow in anyone’s footsteps it would be: George Plimpton

The last thing I think about before I go to bed is: what I’m doing with my life

The last thing that pissed me off was being ridiculously nice to someone I can’t stand because I was nervous

What I hate about NYC is crowds

What I hate about suburbia is a lack of crowds

My favorite flavor of ice cream is mint chocolate chip or that cereal milk thing at Momofuku

If I could be re-incarnated I would come back as a panther

Best cultural institution in NYC is The New York Public Library

House on fire- what do you rescue? Mabel (my cat), my passport, my computer, photographs, first edition of Franny & Zooey, a box of sentimental things, a Givenchy bag

The last thing that scared me was getting caught doing something I wasn’t supposed to be doing

How Did You Get This Number is out on June 15th followed by a nationwide book tour. Visit Sloane’s website to find out when she is reading near you.

Barnes & Noble Tribeca
7PM • Wednesday, June 16th
97 Warren Street

McNally Jackson
7PM • Monday, June 28th
52 Prince Street

Kissing the Mask

Get a load of William T. Vollmann’s new title:  Kissing the Mask: Beauty, Understatement and Femininity in Japanese Noh Theater With Some Thoughts on Muses (Especially Helga Testorf), Transgender Women, Kabuki Goddesses, Porn Queens, Poets, Housewives, Makeup Artists, Geishas, Valkyries and Venus Figurines. In other words, welcome to the work of William T. Vollmann.  I admit to being drawn to his new book, not because I have a particular interest in Japanese Noh Theater (I don’t), or because I believe Vollmann is the Noh expert of his day (he’s not) – but rather, I’m interested in experiencing the latest Vollmann experience.  I mean this as a compliment.

If you’ve never read any of his books you’ve probably heard of him second or third hand, heard that’s he’s crazy, heard that he smokes crack, heard that he frequents prostitutes and you’ve inevitably heard that he writes long books.  Impossibly long books.  But what you might not know is that William T. Vollmann is one of the most daring, breathtaking, morally serious authors writing in English today.

While Kissing the Mask is, on the surface, about Japanese Noh Theater (and about a dozen other, tangentially related topics) it’s really just an excuse for him to write a book about capital B Beauty and Beauty’s infinitely unfolding (and folding) mysteries.  He says as much in the clever opening chapter (Chapter Zero) Understatements About This String-Ball of Idle Thoughts where, in two short pages, he preps the reader for the semi-academic, but-mostly-personal-research, journey they’re about to embark on:  “Deaf, dumb and illiterate in Japanese, innocent of formal study in any discipline of art, a graceless dancer afflicted with bad eyesight, I may not be the perfect author for any essay on Noh drama.  Fortunately, this is no essay, but a string-ball of idle thoughts.”
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